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(@mrwise)
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caught my interest!

 
Posted : 07/11/2016 7:48 am
(@ecekca)
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hmm, if the founder feels tired to continue.... or still have an objective in life..

Posted: November 3, 2016 3:11 pm
Posted by: @michaelschenker

Any chance to privatise?

Prices have not been great lately. Surely would have attracted some buyers.

Just a wild guess.

 
Posted : 04/11/2016 2:30 am
(@michaelschenker)
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Any chance to privatise?

Prices have not been great lately. Surely would have attracted some buyers.

Just a wild guess.

 
Posted : 03/11/2016 7:11 am
(@bishan22)
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80 is all right......

Posted: August 7, 2016 10:47 am
Posted by: @samudra

at current price of 1.065 is overvalued ?.

 
Posted : 07/08/2016 4:26 am
(@samudra)
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at current price of 1.065 is overvalued ?.

 
Posted : 07/08/2016 2:47 am
(@oxdevil)
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stock market just the same as casinos in many ways. the house (major shareholders/management) always has the edge while the small shareholders are just born suckers for the bread crumps. not just singapore but any businessman with a gram of greed would maximize one' s interests without any regards to the sucker-investors.

 
Posted : 08/06/2016 4:16 am
(@lifeisgood)
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I heard the boss rejected an unofficial offer a few years ago, as he was looking at a much higher price.

 
Posted : 07/06/2016 6:10 am
(@jeremyow)
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Haha. Hope it will not be a case like many other Singapore homegrown companies which are delisted eventually at a low unattractive offer price to their shareholders after their share price dropped substantially from their historical highs due to lack of or slowdown in future expansion and growth of their businesses. The owners (major shareholders) can then sell to an acquirer later at a higher valuation than their delisting offer price. This would be making use of cheaper public equity to fund their intial growth stage of their businesses and their shareholders may not gain anything much or even lose out eventually (in terms of capital gain and total dividends collected) when these companies are delisted at an unattractive offer price.

 
Posted : 07/06/2016 5:31 am
(@lifeisgood)
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Different shareholders, different objectives. George Quek apparently is building this business up for sale.

 
Posted : 07/06/2016 1:19 am
(@oxdevil)
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for the shareholders, what is more important, $1 EPS with 500 outlets or $0.1 EPS with 5000 outlets ? for the highly paid management with bonuses and perks, 5000 outlets big sales means more opportunity to skim off more cream before shareholders get a sip. whatever happened to the idea of shareholders' profit come first ? what is the point of rapid (over ) expansion that erode profit instead of increasing profit ?

 
Posted : 06/06/2016 4:23 pm
(@lifeisgood)
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George Quek is building up BreadTalk and its restaurant chains branding and network. There is a of of intangible value that a potential acquirer will treasure.

Money buys time. It takes a lot of time to build a network like this. A potential acquirer will be thinking of how to make use of this branding and F& B outlets to make more money.

Its share price is cheap in the eyes of the acquirer. We shall see.

 
Posted : 06/06/2016 2:45 pm
(@spore1)
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value investing PPL may not look at this counter.low netprofit margin,low ROI,EPS about 3.48 cents PE 33x .seems exp.

Posted: June 6, 2016 6:38 pm
Posted by: @jeremyow

Breaktalk' s gross margins (%) is around 52 to 55% range. Yet its net margins (%) has been decreasing over the past 7 years from around 4.5 % to 1.22% as of latest FY2015 financial report. This shows that the group makes reasonably good gross profits after deducting the cost of raw materials to produce the goods (mainly bread, confectionery items and their food from operating food outlets and restaurants).

However, the kill is in the other operational costs (overheads, staff salaries, distribution and selling expenses and so on) such that its net margins (%) has decreased over the past 7 years to a low 1.22% as of FY2015. As as result, their return on equity (ROE) has also decreased over the past few years.

It seems that the group is facing difficulty to control their operational costs resulting in the decreasing net margins (%). Thus, the group does not make so much net profits even if their scale of number of operating outlets seems large.

Posted: June 6, 2016 3:08 pm
Posted by: @oxdevil

nearly 1000 outlets the group operate. if you are a good businessman and you operate 1 outlet, by right you should generate at least $5000 per month of next profit, otherwise you cannot consider yourself a good businessman. i mean a food court operator can clear $2000 per month of net profit after expenses. 1000 outlets managed by the brilliant management team at IHQ with all the savvy know how and economy of scale and bank loans, breadtalk should easily show 1000 outlets x $5000 x 12 = $60millions of net profit every year just to match the direct sum total. yet with all those high paid brains and fancy IHQ, the profit is $16millions ( equivalent to $1350 profit per outlet per month ). imagine that.. with so much resources invested in each outlet, it merely generate $1350 per month in profit per outlet.

 
Posted : 06/06/2016 11:59 am
(@jeremyow)
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Breaktalk' s gross margins (%) is around 52 to 55% range. Yet its net margins (%) has been decreasing over the past 7 years from around 4.5 % to 1.22% as of latest FY2015 financial report. This shows that the group makes reasonably good gross profits after deducting the cost of raw materials to produce the goods (mainly bread, confectionery items and their food from operating food outlets and restaurants).

However, the kill is in the other operational costs (overheads, staff salaries, distribution and selling expenses and so on) such that its net margins (%) has decreased over the past 7 years to a low 1.22% as of FY2015. As as result, their return on equity (ROE) has also decreased over the past few years.

It seems that the group is facing difficulty to control their operational costs resulting in the decreasing net margins (%). Thus, the group does not make so much net profits even if their scale of number of operating outlets seems large.

Posted: June 6, 2016 3:08 pm
Posted by: @oxdevil

nearly 1000 outlets the group operate. if you are a good businessman and you operate 1 outlet, by right you should generate at least $5000 per month of next profit, otherwise you cannot consider yourself a good businessman. i mean a food court operator can clear $2000 per month of net profit after expenses. 1000 outlets managed by the brilliant management team at IHQ with all the savvy know how and economy of scale and bank loans, breadtalk should easily show 1000 outlets x $5000 x 12 = $60millions of net profit every year just to match the direct sum total. yet with all those high paid brains and fancy IHQ, the profit is $16millions ( equivalent to $1350 profit per outlet per month ). imagine that.. with so much resources invested in each outlet, it merely generate $1350 per month in profit per outlet.

 
Posted : 06/06/2016 10:38 am
(@oxdevil)
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nearly 1000 outlets the group operate. if you are a good businessman and you operate 1 outlet, by right you should generate at least $5000 per month of next profit, otherwise you cannot consider yourself a good businessman. i mean a food court operator can clear $2000 per month of net profit after expenses. 1000 outlets managed by the brilliant management team at IHQ with all the savvy know how and economy of scale and bank loans, breadtalk should easily show 1000 outlets x $5000 x 12 = $60millions of net profit every year just to match the direct sum total. yet with all those high paid brains and fancy IHQ, the profit is $16millions ( equivalent to $1350 profit per outlet per month ). imagine that.. with so much resources invested in each outlet, it merely generate $1350 per month in profit per outlet.

 
Posted : 06/06/2016 7:08 am
(@chinastar)
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Enjoy eating the banana cake:)

Posted: May 3, 2016 4:30 pm
Posted by: @spore1

Cont to trend higher
Posted: May 2, 2016 5:06 pm
Posted by: @spore1

This coming week may see the prices heading further North.

http:// spore share . blog spot . sg/2016/05/breadtalk.html


 
Posted : 17/05/2016 9:31 am
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