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(@johnnywalker)
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Tech Oil and Gas was suspended for what reason? At least it has resumed trading now

Posted: February 11, 2016 10:14 pm
Posted by: @ysh2006

Are there any reserve list to list? ...beside those listed below.
Posted: January 20, 2016 11:59 am
Posted by: @nqing87

wow, that' s some effort putting the list..

what' s worse is sgx just touch & go.. put some trade with caution & highlight some hanky panky, cause the counter to collapse & suspend later on, then they move on like nothing happen.. the way they regulate is like they are not ok with manipulation/over-value/bubbles that counters are forming, but they are ok with under-value counters..


 
Posted : 20/04/2016 4:34 am
(@smallsmall)
Posts: 161
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The next OKH run up ?â &euro &lsaquo

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Posted : 29/03/2016 11:56 am
(@ysh2006)
Posts: 870
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Are there any reserve list to list? ...beside those listed below.

Posted: January 20, 2016 11:59 am
Posted by: @nqing87

wow, that' s some effort putting the list..

what' s worse is sgx just touch & go.. put some trade with caution & highlight some hanky panky, cause the counter to collapse & suspend later on, then they move on like nothing happen.. the way they regulate is like they are not ok with manipulation/over-value/bubbles that counters are forming, but they are ok with under-value counters..

Posted: January 20, 2016 11:52 am
Posted by: @wishbone

Agree. Just look at how many stock especially S-chips are suspended over the last few years. These are the stock which are currently still suspended.

Advance SCT
Anwell Tech
Berlian Laju Tank
Cedar Strategic
Celestial Nutri
Changjiang Fert
China Bearing
China Essence
China Fibretech
China Fishery
China Hongcheng
China Hongxing
China Milk
China Paper
China Star Food
China Sun Bio
CNA
DMX Tecnologies
Eastern
Eratat Lifestyle
Fibrechem
Fujian Zhenyun
Fung Choi Media
Golden Energy
Inch Kenneth
Jason Holding
JES Intl
KLW
LANkom Elec
Memstar Tech
Mercator Lines
OGL Resources
Pacific Andes
Pacific HC
QingMei
Renewabel Energy
Sino Techfibre
SinoPipe
Sunmart
Swee Hong
Tech Oil & Gas
Texchem-Pack
Z-Obee


 
Posted : 11/02/2016 2:14 pm
(@dyna__)
Posts: 273
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Posted earlier to caution against trading this counter, especially when SGX has issued caution in dealing with this counter. No point talking about its fundamental when negativity is surrounding. This is trading 101. Err on the side of caution, always.

 
Posted : 11/02/2016 1:25 pm
(@edwinjup)
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Kana CAD liao.....i will avoid liao

 
Posted : 10/02/2016 7:13 pm
(@nqing87)
Posts: 418
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wow, that' s some effort putting the list..

what' s worse is sgx just touch & go.. put some trade with caution & highlight some hanky panky, cause the counter to collapse & suspend later on, then they move on like nothing happen.. the way they regulate is like they are not ok with manipulation/over-value/bubbles that counters are forming, but they are ok with under-value counters..

Posted: January 20, 2016 11:52 am
Posted by: @wishbone

Agree. Just look at how many stock especially S-chips are suspended over the last few years. These are the stock which are currently still suspended.

Advance SCT
Anwell Tech
Berlian Laju Tank
Cedar Strategic
Celestial Nutri
Changjiang Fert
China Bearing
China Essence
China Fibretech
China Fishery
China Hongcheng
China Hongxing
China Milk
China Paper
China Star Food
China Sun Bio
CNA
DMX Tecnologies
Eastern
Eratat Lifestyle
Fibrechem
Fujian Zhenyun
Fung Choi Media
Golden Energy
Inch Kenneth
Jason Holding
JES Intl
KLW
LANkom Elec
Memstar Tech
Mercator Lines
OGL Resources
Pacific Andes
Pacific HC
QingMei
Renewabel Energy
Sino Techfibre
SinoPipe
Sunmart
Swee Hong
Tech Oil & Gas
Texchem-Pack
Z-Obee

Posted: January 20, 2016 10:29 am
Posted by: @nqing87

We shouldnt stereotype that just ' cos this is not S-chip, there will be little or no risk of fraud..

if their financial reports are real, then probably its price should be higher.. but we have to think through.. if they have tonnes of cash with no debts, why they dont reward shareholders with more dividend.. are they hoarding the cash for business development or other things? by right we shouldnt be worrying about such things like whether fiancial reports are real, if sgx has done a good job regulating.. but unfortunately, that' s very evident from so many cases, and it had dampened investors confidence.. now probably there are a lot of shit to dig out, but sgx probably has a dilemna as well.. that is if they dig more shit out, investors will shun away from market even more.. that' s a consequence they have to face for not regualting the market properly over many years..


 
Posted : 20/01/2016 3:59 am
(@wishbone)
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Agree. Just look at how many stock especially S-chips are suspended over the last few years. These are the stock which are currently still suspended.

Advance SCT
Anwell Tech
Berlian Laju Tank
Cedar Strategic
Celestial Nutri
Changjiang Fert
China Bearing
China Essence
China Fibretech
China Fishery
China Hongcheng
China Hongxing
China Milk
China Paper
China Star Food
China Sun Bio
CNA
DMX Tecnologies
Eastern
Eratat Lifestyle
Fibrechem
Fujian Zhenyun
Fung Choi Media
Golden Energy
Inch Kenneth
Jason Holding
JES Intl
KLW
LANkom Elec
Memstar Tech
Mercator Lines
OGL Resources
Pacific Andes
Pacific HC
QingMei
Renewabel Energy
Sino Techfibre
SinoPipe
Sunmart
Swee Hong
Tech Oil & Gas
Texchem-Pack
Z-Obee

Posted: January 20, 2016 10:29 am
Posted by: @nqing87

We shouldnt stereotype that just ' cos this is not S-chip, there will be little or no risk of fraud..

if their financial reports are real, then probably its price should be higher.. but we have to think through.. if they have tonnes of cash with no debts, why they dont reward shareholders with more dividend.. are they hoarding the cash for business development or other things? by right we shouldnt be worrying about such things like whether fiancial reports are real, if sgx has done a good job regulating.. but unfortunately, that' s very evident from so many cases, and it had dampened investors confidence.. now probably there are a lot of shit to dig out, but sgx probably has a dilemna as well.. that is if they dig more shit out, investors will shun away from market even more.. that' s a consequence they have to face for not regualting the market properly over many years..

Posted: January 20, 2016 12:57 am
Posted by: @jwong016

hi guys my 2c regarding this. tbh right no matter whether this stock is played or not, we should always focus on the fundementals.

i saw a company comparison made w Eratat. Let' s not forget that eratat is/was an S-chip. This company isn' t.

From a balance sheet and P/L perspective (granted all the entries are accurate) - it is actually trading at less than cash now. PB< 1, PE is less than 10.

So i dont think that SGX will suspend this company unless there is accounting fraud - being listed means you are subjected to all these trading noise. This company shouldn' t be compared to Jason, Sino Con, etc Post-plunge prices because post plunge, they were still trading at ridiculous valuations on a simple P/E, P/B, even EV/EBITDA. Furthermore, their assets in question such as IHC, were doubtful (no idea why CCK is buying... as well as his artivision...maybe shell companies for future oxley spin-offs??).

But as investors, let' s just focus on the fundamentals. And granted that the fundamentals are accurate, cash holdings is 8.11c per share and they have no debt. So easy to value, as compared to the above 3 companies in question.

So i dont think that there' s any reason for the share NOT to rise today almost 20%.

1) short covering after all it fell like what 80+% percent previous day.

2) speculators entering the market.

3) genuine investors finding value in this stock.

Not vested, DYODD. Just a kaypoh SGX stock trader.


 
Posted : 20/01/2016 3:52 am
(@qanghoo)
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No matter what, there' ll always be people who buy koyok. Like u go to trade fair, computer exhibition, etc, despite all the rip-off stories u hear, people still flock aroun the stalls. All it takes is for one to start buying n the rest follows .... Same as this koyok here now.

 
Posted : 20/01/2016 3:12 am
(@nqing87)
Posts: 418
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We shouldnt stereotype that just ' cos this is not S-chip, there will be little or no risk of fraud..

if their financial reports are real, then probably its price should be higher.. but we have to think through.. if they have tonnes of cash with no debts, why they dont reward shareholders with more dividend.. are they hoarding the cash for business development or other things? by right we shouldnt be worrying about such things like whether fiancial reports are real, if sgx has done a good job regulating.. but unfortunately, that' s very evident from so many cases, and it had dampened investors confidence.. now probably there are a lot of shit to dig out, but sgx probably has a dilemna as well.. that is if they dig more shit out, investors will shun away from market even more.. that' s a consequence they have to face for not regualting the market properly over many years..

Posted: January 20, 2016 12:57 am
Posted by: @jwong016

hi guys my 2c regarding this. tbh right no matter whether this stock is played or not, we should always focus on the fundementals.

i saw a company comparison made w Eratat. Let' s not forget that eratat is/was an S-chip. This company isn' t.

From a balance sheet and P/L perspective (granted all the entries are accurate) - it is actually trading at less than cash now. PB< 1, PE is less than 10.

So i dont think that SGX will suspend this company unless there is accounting fraud - being listed means you are subjected to all these trading noise. This company shouldn' t be compared to Jason, Sino Con, etc Post-plunge prices because post plunge, they were still trading at ridiculous valuations on a simple P/E, P/B, even EV/EBITDA. Furthermore, their assets in question such as IHC, were doubtful (no idea why CCK is buying... as well as his artivision...maybe shell companies for future oxley spin-offs??).

But as investors, let' s just focus on the fundamentals. And granted that the fundamentals are accurate, cash holdings is 8.11c per share and they have no debt. So easy to value, as compared to the above 3 companies in question.

So i dont think that there' s any reason for the share NOT to rise today almost 20%.

1) short covering after all it fell like what 80+% percent previous day.

2) speculators entering the market.

3) genuine investors finding value in this stock.

Not vested, DYODD. Just a kaypoh SGX stock trader.

Posted: January 20, 2016 12:00 am
Posted by: @n2e9w0

while SGX trying to catch them... the only thing as a investor can do is do his/her own due dillgence before invest... if no reason and their shares rised so high... mus b something wrong.. retail investors shld avoid this unless he/she has the capacity to play... beside if SGX caught them... i believe there will b some other groups continuing their work...so dyodd...

 
Posted : 20/01/2016 2:29 am
(@ruready)
Posts: 2494
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This one still got ppl bottom fishing and playing music chair?

 
Posted : 20/01/2016 1:57 am
(@qanghoo)
Posts: 5029
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There are some pts/qns retailers may wish to note/ask. SGX has already flagged that the share trading of this coy seemed to have been window dressed for so long, Was the > 80% collapse in the share px a spontaneous over-reaction to the SGX caution or an opportunistic exploitative rigging, taking handy advantate of the caution or both? Assuming SGX did not intervene, wld the financial ratios have been at these undemanding levels? If we move in, what is the likelihood of our becoming the victims of pump-n-dump operations? What are the coy' s prospects n earnings visibility going forward, taking into account the industries it serves (apparently the oil n gas sectors, amongst others)? How does the coy rank amongst the listcos on SGX in terms of risk profile, financials, apparent manipulative tendencies, safer alternative options available, etc. I' m also not vested, but another one here to kaypoh with my half cent' s worth, to share hopefully useful pointers on the other side of the coin.

 
Posted : 19/01/2016 11:05 pm
(@jwong016)
Posts: 25
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hi guys my 2c regarding this. tbh right no matter whether this stock is played or not, we should always focus on the fundementals.

i saw a company comparison made w Eratat. Let' s not forget that eratat is/was an S-chip. This company isn' t.

From a balance sheet and P/L perspective (granted all the entries are accurate) - it is actually trading at less than cash now. PB< 1, PE is less than 10.

So i dont think that SGX will suspend this company unless there is accounting fraud - being listed means you are subjected to all these trading noise. This company shouldn' t be compared to Jason, Sino Con, etc Post-plunge prices because post plunge, they were still trading at ridiculous valuations on a simple P/E, P/B, even EV/EBITDA. Furthermore, their assets in question such as IHC, were doubtful (no idea why CCK is buying... as well as his artivision...maybe shell companies for future oxley spin-offs??).

But as investors, let' s just focus on the fundamentals. And granted that the fundamentals are accurate, cash holdings is 8.11c per share and they have no debt. So easy to value, as compared to the above 3 companies in question.

So i dont think that there' s any reason for the share NOT to rise today almost 20%.

1) short covering after all it fell like what 80+% percent previous day.

2) speculators entering the market.

3) genuine investors finding value in this stock.

Not vested, DYODD. Just a kaypoh SGX stock trader.

Posted: January 20, 2016 12:00 am
Posted by: @n2e9w0

while SGX trying to catch them... the only thing as a investor can do is do his/her own due dillgence before invest... if no reason and their shares rised so high... mus b something wrong.. retail investors shld avoid this unless he/she has the capacity to play... beside if SGX caught them... i believe there will b some other groups continuing their work...so dyodd...
Posted: January 19, 2016 11:49 pm
Posted by: @woods30

this group JUST continues to mock the system....really hope SGX catches them with their pants down this time.

 
Posted : 19/01/2016 4:57 pm
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Posts: 98
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while SGX trying to catch them... the only thing as a investor can do is do his/her own due dillgence before invest... if no reason and their shares rised so high... mus b something wrong.. retail investors shld avoid this unless he/she has the capacity to play... beside if SGX caught them... i believe there will b some other groups continuing their work...so dyodd...

Posted: January 19, 2016 11:49 pm
Posted by: @woods30

this group JUST continues to mock the system....really hope SGX catches them with their pants down this time.
Posted: January 19, 2016 10:41 pm
Posted by: @woods30

should alert SGX again... see who are the individuals who had pushed the price sky high..and who are likely planning to do the same again..

 
Posted : 19/01/2016 4:00 pm
(@woods30)
Posts: 285
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this group JUST continues to mock the system....really hope SGX catches them with their pants down this time.

Posted: January 19, 2016 10:41 pm
Posted by: @woods30

should alert SGX again... see who are the individuals who had pushed the price sky high..and who are likely planning to do the same again..
Posted: January 19, 2016 10:31 pm
Posted by: @woods30

this one hope kenna halted indefinitely... people manipulating the share... not fair to company not fair to retail investors like us... what a ground...

 
Posted : 19/01/2016 3:49 pm
(@woods30)
Posts: 285
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should alert SGX again... see who are the individuals who had pushed the price sky high..and who are likely planning to do the same again..

Posted: January 19, 2016 10:31 pm
Posted by: @woods30

this one hope kenna halted indefinitely... people manipulating the share... not fair to company not fair to retail investors like us... what a ground...

 
Posted : 19/01/2016 2:41 pm
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